看完以後，我竟然笑了。換成XX人也真是毫無違和感。 Do the Vietnamese hate the Chinese? http://www.quora.com/Do-the-Vietnamese-hate-the-Chinese Ha-Anh (河英) Nguyen-Viet (阮钺), Native of Hanoi/U.S. educated/Chinese professionally trained Answered Oct 14 This is a very sensitive issue, because as a Vietnamese, if you praise China, then the crazy crowd out there will call you a traitor. I can only speak for myself. I cannot even speak for my family, because this is one of the issues that really divide us. I used to hate China a lot before I graduated from college in the U.S. and started working for a Taiwanese company with coworkers from Mainland, HK, and Taiwan. Like any other well-educated kids from Vietnam, we were raised to hate China. For many different reasons, I’ll explain below. Until I started spending almost 10 hours a day with these Mandarin and Cantonese speakers, then I realize holy shit there is nothing different between my people and these people. Not even language if you consider the fact that my Beijing coworkers can’t understand when Cantonese speakers talk to each other lol. Like hey guy, now you are no better than me.Why do Vietnamese hate Chinese? 1. Inferiority complex: So this is the thing. It’s hard to compare a Vietnamese to a German, because we are too different from each other. Like you cannot compare Titanic to Airbus A380. That’s the difference. Vietnamese vs Japanese? Still a lot of difference. They are far away, language is totally different, faces are different, Japanese culture is just too distinct… However, with Chinese, every fcking thing is the same but Vietnamese are worse in every measure. Like too similar but how come those Chinese people are better than us in everything, even though we are exactly the same (if you compare Guangdong/Guangxi vs North Vietnam). Chinese are richer. Chinese workers are more hardworking. Chinese students outperform Vietnamese students in any UK or US universities, and the reason is not because the Chinese outnumber us. They maintain their cultures better when they stay overseas. Their community is stronger while overseas Vietnamese are famous for lacking unity. They are just better. And unlike what you can find in West vs East pop sociology/anthropology books, when you compare Vietnam vs China, there is no difference for you to form a hypothesis to explain. We are just not as aggressive and attentive as the Chinese. Vietnamese people are just more trivial. The competency, as a nation, is below China. 2. Vietnamese people are trivial and shallow and have a very short-term memory. They can only remember the border fighting in 1979, even though if you compare to 100 years under the French and 20 years with Americans bombing and killing us, those fighting with the Chinese is just nothing. However, like a low-performed student who grows bitter with his peers or like an unfortunate brother who is envious of his more successful brothers, Vietnamese people have a victim mentality. They always think that Chinese people want to invade them even though seriously I believe the Chinese do not care about Vietnam as a country, except for those who do business with the Vietnamese. 3. Slavery mentality. 100 years colonized by the French give them the very Eurocentric mentality that makes a lot of Vietnamese people think White people are superior to Yellow people lol. So they kinda think the Chinese are barbaric, compared to the French. Some stupid Vietnamese even think they were lucky to be colonized and are very proud of the Frenchy part of their culture. This later leads to anti-Confucianism, anti-Hanzi, and when you get too radical it turns out to be anti anything that relates to China. 4. This is the most important thing. History lessons were distorted. Vietnamese people are not aware that they all have Chinese blood and they were in fact the invaders. Modern Vietnamese people are not the indigenous people that live in Vietnamese territories, let’s say, 3000 or 2000 years ago. Long story short, people from Mainland China keep moving South for thousands of years, killing indigenous people and at the same time mixing bloods, language, cultures with the indigenous. The earliest reliable source of our written history was actually from China history. “Vietnam” was a part of “China” to begin with, then later rebelled and gained independence. But that does not sound so nationalistic so people keep making up new ancestors by accusing Han Chinese of destroying “Vietnamese indigenous culture.” They do not understand even though they dig up some artifacts from their lands, it does not mean that culture actually belongs to them. The same story for a lot of monuments and artifacts in the Central and Southern regions that actually belong to Champa and Khmer people (which no Vietnamese ever denies). IT’S IN YOUR TERRITORY AT THE MOMENT BUT IT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOUR ANCESTORS. Vietnamese people do not understand that they are the ones who massacre and destroy indigenous people who are now “ethnic minorities.” They are just the offspring of Northern invaders. Personally, I like Chinese people and Chinese culture (except for food because Northern Viet food is still the best for me). I adore their work ethics and diligence in everything that they do. In general Chinese guys take good care of women around them, from girlfriends to friends to coworkers. I hope someday we can eliminate poverty like China has been doing. Also, the infrastructure too, especially transportation. I feel really envious of Chinese people when it comes to this. Oh yeah the entertainment industry too. I have been watching Chinese dramas since I can remember. I feel like Vietnamese can learn a lot from Chinese, and this is the easiest way to learn instead of reaching for Israel or Japan or anything from Europe as a role model… Because we are too similar. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 譯文： Ha-Anh (河英) Nguyen-Viet (阮钺)，河內人/在美國受的教育/中文專業培訓過 於10月14日回答 這是一個非常敏感的問題，因為作為越南人，如果你讚美中國，瘋狂的人群會叫你叛徒。我只能代表自己說說自己的看法。我甚至不能代表我的家人說話，因為這是真正使我們分裂的問題之一。 在我美國大學畢業，並開始為一家台灣公司與來自大陸，香港和台灣的同事一起工作之前，我曾經很恨中國。像來自越南的其他受過良好教育的孩子一樣，我們從小到大被教育要恨中國。出於許多不同的原因，我會在下面解釋。直到我開始和那些用中國國語和廣東話的人每天花近10個小時的時間相處，我才意識到我們和這些人之間沒有什麼不同。甚至不是語言上的不同，如果你考慮到一個事實---我的北京來的同事也聽不明白講粵語的人們互相交談的內容。笑！嘿，兄弟，你也沒有比我做得更好。 為什麼越南人恨中國人？ 1.自卑情結：這樣說吧。很難把越南人和德國人做比較，因為我們彼此太不同了。就像你無法比較泰坦尼克號和空中客車A380。這是不同的。越南人vs日本人？還有很多不同之處。他們距離很遠，語言完全不同，面孔不同，日本文化也十分不同。但是，對於中國人來說，每一件事情都是一樣的，但越南人在各方面都做得更糟。 雖然我們完全一樣（如果你比較廣東/廣西vs北越），但是這些中國人怎麼比一切都好？中國人更富有。中國工人更勤勞。中國學生在英國和美國任何一所大學的成績都優於越南學生，原因並不是因為中國人超過了我們。當他們留在海外時，他們的文化會更好。他們的社區更加強大，而越南人以缺乏團結而著稱。他們只是更好。與東西方流行社會學/人類學書籍上能找到的說法不同，當你比較越南與中國時，你可以形成一個假設來解釋。我們不像中國人那樣積極進取和專注。越南人顯得更微不足道。作為一個國家，能力低於中國。 2.越南人瑣碎而淺薄，記憶力很短。他們只能記住1979年的邊界戰爭，即使你比較法國人下的100年和美國人轟炸殺我們的20年，那些與中國人的戰爭更算不了什麼。 然而，越南人就像一個因學習成績不佳產生痛苦的學生或者像一個嫉妒他更成功的兄弟的不幸的弟弟一樣，越南人有受害者心態。他們一直認為中國人想入侵他們，儘管我認為中國人並不關心越南是一個國家，除了那些與越南人做生意的人之外。 3.奴性思想。 被法國殖民的100年賦予他們歐洲中心的心態，這讓很多越南人認為白人比黃人更優越。笑！所以他們覺得中國人比法國人野蠻。 一些愚蠢的越南人甚至認為他們很幸運能夠被殖民，並且為他們文化中的法國部分感到自豪。這後來導致了他們反儒和反漢字，而當這種心態過於激進的時候，結果卻是反對任何與中國有關的東西。 4.這是最重要的事情。歷史課被扭曲。越南人不知道他們都有中國血統，他們實際上是入侵者。越南現代人不是生活在越南領土上的土著人民，比方說，3000年或2000年前。長話短說，來自中國大陸的人們繼續向南遷移數千年，殺死土著居民，同時將血統，語言，文化與當地土著人混合了。我們書面歷史的最早可靠來源實際上來自中國歷史。 “越南”一開始就是“中國”的一部分，後來反叛並獲得了獨立。 但這種說法聽起來並不那麼民族主義，所以人們通過指責漢族摧毀“越南土著文化”而不斷創造自己新的祖先。即使他們從他們的土地上挖出了一些文物，他們也不明白，這並不意味著這些文化實際上屬於他們。中部和南部地區的很多紀念物和文物也是同樣的故事，這些地區實際上屬於佔婆族和高棉族（這點越南人自己也不否認）。 這裡現在是你的領地，但它並不屬於你的祖先。越南人不明白是他們屠殺和摧毀現在是“少數民族”的土著居民，他們只是北方侵略者的後代。 就我個人而言，我喜歡中國人和中國文化（除了食物，因為北越食物對我來說仍然是最好的）。 我喜歡他們的職業道德和勤奮。 一般來說，中國人都很關照周圍的女人，從女朋友到朋友，再到同事。 我希望有一天我們能像中國一樣消除貧困。 此外，基礎設施也是如此，特別是運輸。 談到這一點，我感到非常羨慕中國人。 哦，娛樂業也是。 自從我記事以來，我就一直在觀看中國戲劇。 我覺得越南人可以從中國人那裡學到很多東西，這是學習的最簡單的方式，而不是接觸以色列或日本，或者來自歐洲的任何東西作為榜樣......因為我們太相似了。